Femeie, 30, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Ma consider o persoana cat se poate de sociabila,simpatica si atractiva:)).Imi place sa traiesc moment si consider ca asta trebuie sa facem cu totii;niciodata nu sti ce se poate intampla maine I consider myself a kind and cheerful person. I am very sociable, and I have many friends. I have a very good sense of humor. I am very optimistic person. I love animals and nature. I'm very active and energetic. I am very family-oriented and loving. I'm a good housewife. Inalta(169cm),solduri provocatoare,par lung castaniu,ochi caprui Caut o persoana de sex opus cu care pot comunica sincer fara nici o retinere in toate domeniile,deasemenea pt distractii si ce se mai poate ivi.Imi place sa cunosc societatea in general
Femeie, 20, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
FOTOMODEL Persoana destul de sociabila. Sunt aici pentru cunostinte simpatice si interesante. Sunt maritata si nu vreau sa mi se reproseze (cum se intampla uneori), pagina aceasta trebuie sa fie pentru toata lumea, fara discriminare. SATISFACATOR MASCUL BINE
Femeie, 30, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Sociabila,carismatica,intelegatoare,prietenoasa ...Cel mai mult in viata, iubesc linistea sufleteasca, tandretea, blandetea si adevarul. Detest minciuna, barfa, bautura in exces si oamenii care isi ascund adevarata personalitate. Ador oamenii cu bunul simt, oamenii adevarati, cei care stiu ce constituie a fi om... Bruneta-1,70,90-65-90,ochii verzi,55 kg. Mascul cu bun simt potent financiar.
Femeie, 26, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Sunt putine de spus,mai multe de vazut!!! I am a sexy woman with traditional family values. I believe in love would like to create a relationship, based on this feeling. I would also like to have respect and trust in my future family. Having all these qualities, me and my future husband will be happy in our family life. I dream to have kids and would be happy to become a mother for your kids, if you have them. I love animals and nature. I also try to keep fit, as I would like my future husband to be proud of me! sunt ok!!! cit mai mult zimbet
Femeie, 24, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Imi place, sa ma plimb ,imi place distractia,imi place ca partenerul meu sa ma asculte si sa fie grijuliu cu mine si mai ales sa nu ma insele cu nimeni "Viata este scurta, asa ca iubeste viata. Fii fericit si zambeste intotdeauna. Traieste elegant si aminteste-ti: Inainte sa vorbesti, asculta! Candva sa scrii, gandeste! Inainte sa ranesti, simte! Inainte sa urasti, iubeste! Inainte sa renunti, incearca! Inainte sa mori, traieste!a€¯ - (William Shakespeare ....Dragostea e ca un joc de sah...se joaca cu mintea se castiga cu inima...si uneori te obliga la sacrificii...Dar intotdeauna trebuie sa protejezi Regina...si sa nu lasi Regele in sah....pentru ca-n viata sunt mai multi Nebuni ca pe tabla...si ar fi pacat, ca partida sa devina doar...Remiza... Am un aspect foarte frumos eu asa cred dar ori cum las masculi sa vad ce spun daca am un aspect bun sa nu Caut mai multe cum, ar fi iubire dragoste blandete
Femeie, 31, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Sociabila, ambitioasa si dornica sa incerc absolut orice .. Mi-am deschis acest cont pentru a discuta cu cei care merita , nu vreau sa ma intalnesc sau sa ma marit , sunt deja . Asadar va rog frumos sa imi cititi aceasta descriere si sa tineti cont de ea . Placut Un mascul dotat .. si inteligent
Femeie, 26, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
imi plac distractiile,imi place muzica,dansul si imi plac super mult hainele Nu sint aici pentru a cauta sex sau aventuri. Sa se abtina masculii ocupati... as dori sa cunosc o persoana cu capul pe umeri, care cauta o relatie serioasa, si care sta in italia si vrea un viitor in italia.. bafta la toti pot sa spun ca arat bine...:d
Femeie, 26, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
youth abroad, have lived in the US for most of my life. mother of to two wonderful children - all independent and productive. Down to earth, optimistic, appreciative of my good fortune and the interesting opportunities life has presented... curious and inquisitive - smart enough to know what I know and what I don't. Kind, sensitive and considerate in my professional and personal life; comfortable being understated rather than a headline. A kind, happy, interesting, alluring, intelligent and confident man makes me smile.
Femeie, 29, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
nu va pot spune acum va las sa ma cunoasteti mai intai si apoi facem schimb de convingeri I am 33 years old, single, never married with no child, non-drinker or smoker. disease or drugs free, faithful caring, romantic, have a good sense of humor, down to Earth, open minded loving, honest and understanding,... frumusik foc:P un mascul frumos;)
Femeie, 33, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
ok Sint o persoana vesela , comunicativa intelegatoare . Apreciez in mod deosebit seriozitatea, corectitudinea , comunicarea urasc aventurieri, nu imi plac glumele de prost gust prefacatoria . Nu ma inplic intr-o relatie nereala care nu are sanse de supravietuire , imi place sa traiesc in armonie . Caut un mascul serios pentru casatorie care sa-mi asigure stabilitate ,respect si in exceptional iubire , nu am obligati sint pregatita pentru o relatie in doi , o relatie eleganta statornica , cu vacante frumoase , si toate acele lucruri frumoase care viata ne acorda , nu sint disperata astept cu rabdare barbati casatoriti vedeti de familia ce o detineti sentimente.ro a fost creat pentru fiintele care vor sa cunoasca masculul s-au sotia cu care sa-si refaca viata s-au cei care nu au fost casatoriti si isi cauta jumatatea stati deoparte super ok sa fie la fel de ok
Femeie, 25, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
come and meet me!!! Am fost si voi persista o romantica incurabila,am gustat suferinta, am gustat si fericirea, am ras plangand, am plans razand...Am avut zile cand viata era o lupta , ma culcam seara cu fata in lacrimi si dimineata ma trezeam crezand din nou in iubire...Nu stiu de ce am fost construita asa , sa ma simt fericita , distinsa , umpluta de viata , doar atunci cand iubesc...Sunt unul din acei oameni care nu se tem de dragoste , care nu se tem sa-si exprime sentimentele , le pun pe tava pentru cel care le vrea , pentru cel care are trebuinta de ele , pentru cel care nu tremura de frica in fata iubirii..Lupt pentru sentimentele mele ca o leoaica , lupt pana raman fara unghii , pana cand sangele imi tasneste din degete ... plec epuizata fara sa ma simt infranta , am dat dragoste , am iubit.. si.. daca am luptat, a meritat.. a fost gura de aer din vartejul ametitor al vietii. Nu ma simt resemnata , iubesc sa iubesc , poate am vrut sa scot absolutul dintr-o iluzie si mi-am lucrat singura rau , poate m-am aflat unde nu trebuia si am cautat unde nu trebuia..Nu am cautat niciodata cu ochii , am cautat cu sufletul , el este cel care si-a ales insula pe care a naufragiat , el a ales malul de care s-a agatat. sunt...normala.. ...caut barbat....frumos!:)
Femeie, 23, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Romantica, umpluta de viata, sincera si de incredere. Ia€™m quiet, happy, tender and affectionate. Ia€™m easy-going and I always try to be in a good mood. Ia€™m persistent and purposeful. Ia€™m quite compassionate and I enjoy helping people when I have an opportunity. I like talking on different subjects and having only positive emotions. I'm simple easy going, one man woman, honest, genuine, trustworthy, reliable. I am very understanding and have much respect for other people. Usor Nimic.
Femeie, 34, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Lauda de sine nu miroase a bine :P I am a dreamer and I have a sense of humor. I think it also shows that I am open minded, opportunities come from all directions and you never know where you might meet your next best friend or lover.Life is unic and I like to wake up feeling excited of what the new day brings, even if that means bouncing off the planets. Poza opening your eyes each and every morning and smiling at the thought that this new day is completely different and brings new excitement, and that the person you're with feels exactly the same way. I'm fairly natural and like to be considerate, respectful and caring but you never know if you get me on a bad day
Femeie, 30, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
I am the ocean and it's turbulent flood. Am a girl of 24yrs loving, caring obedient and humble still searching for the love of my life, no matter how rich, poor, color or religion all i need is a man of dignity that\\\'s all thanks and God bless as you atingere me with this email address The Lady In Red Be with me, i will open the gate to your love. I wait with silent passion for one gesture one glance from you.
Femeie, 23, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
o persoana Unica!! I'm a woman who is gentle, sweet, dichisit and devoted to my future life partner. Believe passion, sex, commitment, trust, mutual understanding, loyalty would be the cornerstone of a marriage. I am passionately looking to building a loving relationship with a special guy. un fizic f frumos .. dar depinde de ce gusturi aveti ;) pe mine .. la masculin !
Femeie, 22, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Buna sunt o fata draguta,de gasca,cu simtul umorului.Daca vrei sa afli mai multe despre mine contacteaza-ma.Pupici I am a very descent, respected and respectful woman who likes to listen to other people when talking, i am easy going, have great sense of humor, am very responsible and accountable for all that i do.... Am single and looking forward to meet God fearing man in my life with my yet to find soul mate.... Caring, loving, descent, generous etc , these are words often used by people who know me to describe my personality. Caut sinceritate, prietenie adevarata... cam atat.
Femeie, 32, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
O prietena draguta I am a cool minded person , I love being straight forward in my activities with people,infact the reason my folks like me is just cos of my policy of being simple as I believe Greatness Lies In Simplicity how about u dont u think so ? Las la aprecierea ta un barbat dragut
Femeie, 35, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Nu sunt eu in marime sa ma descriu Am a down to earth single and Looking Lady..Who loves to cook,dance,listen to music and also the most of all to cuddle..Am Looking to meet that caring and Loyal Man.someone who is going to love me forever and ever.I dont care about age nor distance.I have alot to share with you about me.cause am a great and Romantic lady Alura fizic ok Caut pe cineva sa ne completam unul pe celalalt
Femeie, 25, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
o fata normal cu multe curiozitati Imi place sa iubesc si sa fiu iubita, sa fiu respectata!Imi plac mesajele scrise din suflet nu copiate de pe net.Imi plac cuvintele frumoase si sincere. Asta se reflecta mai mult asupra iubirii.Imi place sa visez, asta ma ajuta sa-mi formez o mica lume a mea unde sa-mi inchipui un viitor asa cum mi-l doresc, macar in vise totul este posibil! placuta spun eu oameni draguti cu care pot purta un dialog
Femeie, 31, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
ce sa va spun eu meey?va las pe voi sa dezcoperizi!!poopl voy!! What should be added to unwritten beauty else. Unless monstrous modesty! It is easy for me to be patient, light, transparent, invisible and not to rush things, which have to be seen for yourself. I am a kind girl, shy at first, but eager to flourish. Everything else waits ahead! Of course, sometimes there are bad days in my life, but then I reminisce what a sweet sun! Sunshine must be dealt between two... that is why I am here blonda,1,70cmh, ochii verzi. in cautare de prietni !!!
Femeie, 35, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
hmmm.... SUNT F....NORMALA , ECHILIBRATA, INTELEGATOARE DAR....CU LIMITA BUNULUI SIMT, NU VREA DECAT ATAT CAT DARUIESC EU SI TOTUL SA FIE ....SA FIE NORMAL, FRUMOS, RECIPROC, OARE VREAU CEVA EXAGERAT SAU ...DE PE ALTA PLANETA ??? SPER CA NU tot aia... da....
Femeie, 49, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
pasionata de calatorii.... Am single never married and have no kids. Well I am down to earth and also very open minded and outgoing type . Am honest and loyal. I will like to meet a man I can call my own and spend the rest of my life with placut..... ceva deosebit...nu stiu...
Femeie, 32, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Salut, dragii mei, Cum te sim?i azi, sper c? totul este bine cu tine. Ne pare r?u s? v? face?i griji cu propunerea mea pentru o rela?ie cu tine, dar eu ?tiu c? cererea mea va fi acordat intr-un mod bun ?i in?elegere, numele meu este Miss Rashida, eu sunt un foarte bun caut? fat? tan?r? care inc? mai decente unic, de asemenea, i se va dori s? ?tie mai multe despre tine. Sper s? aud de la tine in curand, astfel incat i se va trimite mai multe detalii despre sine meu Inclusiv fotografiile mele pentru tine. Cred c? ne putem muta de aici. ?ine?i cont de faptul c? Iubirea nu are nici o bariera de culori, nu educa?ional inapoi la sol barier?, nici o barier? socio-economice, religioase, limb?, na?ionalitate sau de bariera de la distan??, singurul lucru important este dragoste, adev?r, ingrijirea ?i understanding. momentul pierdut..
Femeie, 30, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Eu, cu bune si rele, ca orice tanara de varsta mea ... Am new here and i wish to know you more so we can be together. Am ready to let you know me more so we can be together if you are interested. Am a free, fair and simple lady and dont get angry easily. I dont know your purpose here too but i wish to know so i can share with you together. beautiful as i am my hobbies are swimming, listening to music and watching movies of my choice. I will like to know what you like best in life so i can give you much attention just like a man deserve. I repeat this again that am very interested in a man who will be very serious about a true relationship and if possible life partner in future if our love grows. I know much about love and i can show you dear love, love that i call forever, perpetual, and eternal love. i will be glad to here from you out there and come and experience true long term relationship leading to life partner. loneliness is not suppose to be mankind\'s friend, it hurt alot and must be avoided as long as love and life is concern. Nimic deosebit
Femeie, 30, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Carpe Diem Daca esti casatorit iti vor fericire dar nu imi scrie ca nu imi pierd timpul.Daca esti singur,stii sa spui bancuri ,stii sa dansezi,iti place muntele si nu ai ochi alunecosi atunci bine te-am gasit:). P.S.apreciez barbatii cu cei 7 ani de acasa.
Femeie, 27, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
ehh uita-te si vezi I'm someone who has a lot to offer to the right partner. I'm happy with my life, alone but not lonely. I miss sharing it all with someone special. I enjoy long conversations, experiences, and romance. I want a best friend and companion first..and let nature take its course, if it is mutual and we want to marry that's a decision to be made later.I am at a point in my life where I want to spend some quality time with a mate that will share all life has to offer. I'm independant and self reliant but would love the opportunity to have a partner again. Life is so wonderful and I know I am not meant to spend it alone. I'm easy going, never moody, open minded, witty, and intelligent. I laugh a lot and enjoy life. I think mutual respect and mutual admiration for each other is important.For me a down to earth type... someone compassionate, with good empathy; a romantic person who still believes true love to be possible; someone who is loyal and will stick by their partner no matter what. If you're after games lies and other things from me then i think i am not ready to to get on with all that . I'm quietly confident, love traveling and finding about new things. I love the country, less so the city and prefer a good restaurant,.I am a simply looking lady, easy going and caring woman. I am 5;7ft.am caring, commitment, honest, humble like a child abed well educated lady, mai ma gandesc
Femeie, 29, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
sensibila The very thought of you And I forget to do The little ordinary things that everyone ought to do I'm living in a kind of daydream I'm happy as a queen And foolish though it may seem to me that's everything The mere idea of you The longing here for you You never know how slow the moments go Till I'm near to you I see your face in every flower Your eyes in stars above It's just the thought of you The very thought of you My love cine ma place ma place asa amicitie
Femeie, 35, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
sant o persoana simpla I am a very positive, loving, caring and giving lady that loves spending a time close to the ocean. I love grilling under the sun on the beach and swimming in the sea or the ocean. I have a positive mindset and try to smile and laugh as often as I can. I believe that every cloud has a silver lining. slabutza un mascul sincer care sa isi doreasca acelashii fapt ca si mne,o familie.
Femeie, 48, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
las pe altii sa aprecieze I am a very cheerful lady with a great sense of humor. I have a warm, calm and kind soul. I am a great companion who is easy to spend time with and to rely on. I am understanding, caring and loving. My good attitude towards people helps me make new friends and maintain relationships with good friends. I believe that love conquers all: differences, distances and barriers. All I can offer to you are love, respect, loyalty as well as tenderness, all my affection and passion. I believe that I can keep my man happy in many ways. A lady with a spark in her eyes and a big loving heart. BETON... Iti inchipui femela din zodia Fecioarei ca pe o creatura pura ca zapada? Iluziile tale sunt pe cale de a fi spulberate.In debutantul rand coloana ei vertebrala e facuta din otel inoxidabil.Are toate vicleniile si armele necesare, inclusiv hotararea de a-si cauta fericirea, oriunde s-ar afla aceasta. Daca pe acest drum se intampla sa dea peste ceva spini, nu va lesina si nici nu va striga dupa ajutor.Este singura nevasta din zodiac care poate fi mortal de practica si perfect de romantica in acelasi timp.
Femeie, 32, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
dulce;)/sweet;) Io sunt ceea ce sunt, ceea ce ALEG sa fiu, ceea ce ALEG sa manifest din mine, LUMINA sau Umbra.... dar intotdeauna , atunci cand interactionezi cu mine, prin gand, privire, fapta, gasesti RASPUNSUL. Ma numesc Thalia.Am in prezent 55 de ani.Din fericire,sunt o fiinta draguta, cum spune lumea,o fiinta sensibila, nu prea stiu sa mint, dar imi place sa tachinez anumite persoane la care tin. Toata multimea cand ma vede imi spune: a€˛Ce ochi frumosi ai!...si sincer ma uit mereu in oglinda in speranta ca o sa descopar ce e asa deosebit la ei. Am multe pasiuni...imi depasesc limitele, sa am mai mult curaj si incredere in mine.a€˛Ce e mai greu, e mai usor dupaa€¯.Nu am reusit sa termin o facultate nu pentru ca nu am vrut ...pentru ca am avut o responsabilitate mult mai mare de dus pana la capat. Lucrez in mai numeroase domenii ...nu pentru ca nu am o ordine in idei..pentru singurul ratiune ca o pot face. Alte pasiuni pe care le mai am sunt...dansul , patinajul,plimbatul in natura,pictura , sculptura,styling hair, gatit,pescuit , fac multa deplasare si nu sunt pretentioasa.Sunt o indragostita, o fire sensibila, iubesc oamenii.... animalele, am un motan nazdravan de care am grija si cu care ma joc mereu... O catelusa si doi perusi.Am o situatie fina caci tatal meu este imobilizat la pat si nu o sa il ABANDONEZ NICIODATA PENTRU CASATORITUL CARE VA FACE PARTE DIN VIATA MEA. creola/dark-skinned un tip cu suflet.../a guy with a soul
Femeie, 27, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
plina de initiativa, dornica de aventura si fe evadare din cotidianul anost Here I am among women seeking men. I joined the dating site to find my other half. I am a quite serious and confident person, but I can relax and have fun as well. I can be a little bit sentimental. When someone of my mates or friends is sad, I try to boost their mood and help them to get rid of these negative emotions. I like traveling, meeting new people and making friends ;))) poti vedea singur din poze un barbat adevarat, punct.
Femeie, 28, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Sincera, glumeata, de viata, restul e ...cancan Cautiously optimistic to find a man who is well grounded, kind, well structured mentally, intelligent, makes time for the relationship, remembers always to be a gentleman and has realistic expectations from his partner. Easy going, good sense of humour with a young heart and mindset would really match my personality. For those who dona€™t have a picture, are under 52 or over 62 there will be no reply. Thank you. Placut Voi descoperi singura
Femeie, 30, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
sunt o fire prietenoasa ,sociabila,comunicativa Ma plimb pe aici in speranta sa gasesc un mascul destept si cu bun simt si care sa vrea o singura relatie - stabila. ...................................................... "Daca zambesc constituie ca ma bucur; Daca te caut inseamna ca mi-e dor; Daca te ajut inseamna ca imi pasa; Daca intreb inseamna ca ma intereseaza; Daca ofer inseamna ca meriti; Daca cer inseamna ca am nevoie; Daca spun inseamna ca vreau sa stii." bruneta, ochi caprui,bine creata barbati sexi
Femeie, 30, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
I am here to find my soulmate.I always lock in life with the confidence.I am a romantic, full passion and love. I am great sense of humor. I love :-) enjoy your life. ia€™m looking for the man of my dreams with a kind heart.
Femeie, 34, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
Inteligenta,draguta,onesta intr-un cuvint ecechilibrata imi place sa gatesc,sa ascult muzica buna si sa petrecem timp de exceptie in doi ,cu omul potrivit...bineinteles!!! Inca o precizare,nu raspund la mesaje ce vin din fractiune profilelor fara poza.
Femeie, 32, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
sunt blonda:))))))))) I am an easy going professional, sincere and honest woman. I like quiet evenings at home with my dogs, watching television, listening to music, science fiction, reading a book or having lively conversation. I have a good sense of humor. Don't hesitate to ask me anything. nu stiu sa ma descriu singura si nici nu imi place ...ii las pe altii:)))) nu caut nimic special......ce mai poti gasi in ziua de azi?:))
Femeie, 27, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
WOW!!! What a man!!! I got interested in you. As for me,I am Marina)))I'm a lonely Ukrainian girl who want real love. If you want to get to know more about me and see my foto, please give me your e-mail address!
Femeie, 40, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
O femeie care isi vrea sa fie cu cineva din suflet!Nu din obligatie,nu din plictiseala sau din disperarea de a nu fii singura! I am a woman; feminine, loving, refined, charming, but not self-centered, the one who is very caring and knows how to treat her man, surrounding him with affection which results in intimacy, satisfaction, anticipation, and joy all wrapped into one package . I have a sympathetic and exceptionally kind, gentle nature, I understand and respect others, able to listen and support. I am very good at solving other people's conflicts and easily find a compromise in any situation. I am active and hardworking, I am able to put tremendous amounts of energy into doing the task which is important to fulfilling a goal which is mutual for my partner and me. I am joyful, charged with optimism and positive energy, and it is never boring with me.I can be very creative, smart and spontaneous in order to make my soul mate happy. I enjoy spending my free time in the countryside having rest after the city fuss. I feel comfortable when I can see the open sky. I adore spending romantic evenings with my partner. Placut.Tu ce zici? Un barbat dragut,placut ochiului,un barbat bland placut inimii.Prima cerinta este o bijuterie,dar cea de-a doua este o originala comoara.
Femeie, 25, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
sunt o persoana dragutza...........companie placuta.........careia ii plac calatoriile..............imi place foarte mult sa am prieteni sinceri care sa ma ajute cand am nevoie.............si la randul meu ofer sustinerea tuturor celor care il cer sunt micutza de statura.....am practicat gimnastica cativa anisori....sunt bruneta cu ochii caprui.. sinceritate...........simpatie.......aspect fizic placut..........
Femeie, 29, Necasatorit(a)
Campina, Prahova Romania
sexy si rea!!!!!!! i am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for lovei am anice looking girl seeking for love dragutz............cred Baiat cat de cat de draGUTZ,SERIOS,SINCER,etc