Candva ca altii sa-mi fie vinovati, sunt vinovata eu, fata de mine. Noi, cei care vrem altceva de la viata, suntem obligati de toate legile sperantei sa marturisim propriile noastre adevaruri.Altfel, tribunalele dragostei ne vor declara complici la inalta tradare de sine. Vom fi condamnati pe vecie la irevocabile tristeti, la insingurari fara drept de apel.DRAGOSTEA e o mare nebunie si trebuie luata in serios. Iar romanele indragostitilor si cantecele de amor arata ca iubirea e un fapt rar, extraordinar, nu-i pe toate drumurile! Dar noi, nu stiu de ce, suntem educati sa credem ca e la-ndemana oricui... Cine sunt eu? Vibrez la frumusete, caut perfectiunea in tot ceea ce fac si sunt, poate, cam prea sensibila pentru vremurile acestea. Si aleg sa ma bucur de tot ce-mi ofera viata, in fiecare zi. Pentru ca frumusetea e peste tot. Ma simt frumoasa cand ma simt impacata cu mine. Mi se pare obositor si plictisitor sa tii cont mereu de regulile unui cod social. E important sa poti sa provoci socialul cu imaginea individualitatii tale asumate, relaxate. E ca un joc. " Eu ma accept.Voi?"
E foarte greu sa te descri singura ,sint o femeie educata, simpatica imi place sa calatoresc .imi `place sportul sa conduc ma relaxeaza acum locuiesc in spania de 19 ani si imi caut jumatate crezi ca esti tu ?????????
ma consider cea mai fraiera sotie din lume,MOTIVUL:pun botu prea repede
si sunt prea sufletista I am ready to accept my future partner with all his traits and drawbacks if our souls match. His age does not matter to me anything, but his inner world does! I am sure that there is a men on this planet who wants to get acquainted with me, who is awaiting my love and who is just like me willing to have a nice and complete family. I am sure that the man I need is loving, decent, tender, mature and stable and reliable so if interested in what you read on my profile ,You can add this all this line together to get me because that is the easiest way too get intouch with me.. 5.....Time is nothing. The desire to love is everything. 2.....A flower cannot blossom without sunshine, and man cannot live without love. 0......I want to find someone who can make me laugh and smile on my worst day. 4......I believe everything can be worked out if the two people love each other enough. 2......I believe a strong relationship is built on a solid foundation, without a foundation you have nothing to grow upon. 8......I want someone who is willing to give 100% of himself to me and our relationship . 7...... I believe it doesn't take very long in wondering whether two people are compatible. 2......Life in abundance comes only through great love. 3.......Love is nothing but the purest connection between two hearts. 1.......You'll be surprised to know how far you can go from the point where you thought it was the end. Get me through the line and you are going to hear from me ASAPthanks for taken your time to ready this far....I hope to hear from you soonest sexy bomba relatii,prietenii,distractie,etc
o fata simpla .... Ia€™m Leticia, Im 32 years old, I live in Hadensville Virginia, I work as an partea interioara decorator for a firm, Ia€™m single never married looking for serious and I can call my souls mate... if you are interested in knowing me better you can buzz me din pacate pentru numeroase persoane conteaza destul de mult acest infatisare . . . de ce oare? . . . las la aprecierea voastra . . . ce caut? e ceva simplu dar in acelasi timp extrem greu de gasit. . . dc vrei sa stii cautama . . .
Hi, there. It's the first time when I have to write something about myself. I'm full of energy but at the same time I can be calm and romantic. Promise to be a devoted wife, caring mother and passionate lover. Would like to faurite a strong and friendly family. Like nature, good music and good sense of humor.
sunt o fire vesela,optimista,imi place f mult viata.Apreciez f mult sinceritatea,nu imi plac minciunile! I love to have fun and have a good laugh. I am a bit cheeky, I hate to be too serious. But i do have very strong morals when it comes to relationship. I am a practicing christian and really want to meet a man who is like minded in his love for God. I am an early childhood educator and run my own business. I enjoy dressing up and dining out, movies, the theatre, ballet. I love cities at night, our Sydney is so gorgeous! I love waterfalls and fountains, best enjoyed with an ice cream. I love nature reflected in water. I have a Labradoodle. I walk most days, I do about an hour and not at a slow pace! Mmmm driving in the country, and down the coast. Picnics, bush walks. I've been on South Pacific cruises and really want to see the Eiffel tower at night, so off to Paris in the Spring time, Italy and Venice too is a dream of mine. It would be wonderful to have someone to share that with, to share life with sunt simpatica,am ochii albastri,1,65 inaltime si 52 kg caut un mascul simpatic,cu simtul umorului,care sa stie sa aprecieze o femeie,sa o respecte
Sunt o persoana vesela I am a happy person, i love to smile laugh,i think am a very down to earth and easy going, i love cooking, listening to music,spending time with family.. i am a person of confidence optimistic, lovely and a simple girl.. asa si asa o relatie serioasa
I am a person like cooking housewife are honest I am hardworking woman and self dependent, I am loving,caring and have a great sense of humor.I love to make those around me happy all the time especially my loved ones. I look like a city girl but inside me is a woman who loves nature and the out doors. I don't mind getting my hands dirty by fetching firewood while you set the tent when we go camping or change the car oil with you. beautifule and sweety
I am a gentle, easy-going, intim and family-oriented lady. I like to bring home comfort and hospitality. I prefer romantic atmosphere more. I am a very positive person, cheerful and I look forward to a new day, giving thanks to God. I do believe in a real love and I genuinely believe, that I can meet my love here, on this site. I am very active person. I am interested in everything that gives me pleasure.
I am interested in a serious relationship. I want to find a strong shoulder on which I can rely, a man who will love me as much as I do him. I want to take care of my loved one and feel the feedback. I just want true honest love without lies. I will try to find it here in someone. Maybe in you I will find this love?
Uita-te si tu la poze Despre mine... Vreau un mascul care sa nu imi aduca un buchet de trandafiri de ziua mea...ci sa mi rupa o floare de pe strada intr o zi oarecare si sa mi o puna dupa ureche...un barbat...care sa ma gadile...sa ma ciupeasca...sa mi puna piedica pe strada...un barbat care sa nu ma judece dupa aparente...vreau un barbat care sa ma opreasca cu un sarut atunci cand vorbesc mult si aiurea. Depinde ce cauta fiecare De baieti cu gura mare e plina lumea! Fetele stiu de ce! :D si lor le raspund.
P.S.: NU DAU ID! NU MAI AVEM, S-A TERMINAT!
Sotiile sunt speciale. O stim cu totii. Ne gandim la ele, le iubim si admiram , le f...m .
frumoasa, cuminte , ascultatoare, incapatanata , Increzatoare Sunt o iubita normala, desteapta, frumoasa. Desi mi-e greu sa cred ca in acest fel nu voi mai fi singura, am decis ca merita incercat. In fond nu e nimic de pierdut, nu? Decat vremea... Rog ca cei ce nu-si vor o relatie normala, frumoasa, bazata pe sentimente adevarate si valori morale sa nu-si piarda vremea cu mine. Astept aproape mine domnul de care pana acum n-am avut parte, pentru ca n-a fost sa fie. Din februarie 2011 locuiesc si muncesc in Dorking, Surrey, UK. usor , asa spun eu Doresc sa socializez , sa cunosc persoane , distractie , etc
...Sunt tanara...tentanta...si umpluta de distractie.. Sensibila, romantica, prezentabil, educata, sociabila, prietenoasa, cu simtul umorului, draguta, inteligenta. Imi place mult mult sa calatoresc in toata lumea, iubesc natura, florile in singular trandafirii.
Pentru cei cu mintea mai inceata , care au sarit peste citirea profilului sau nu au inteles, mai repet inca o data ca sunt casatorita. Nu caut aventuri sau iubiti , caut doar sa imi fac amici , atat si nimic mai mult, nu va mai obositi cu fel de fel de propuneri, veti primii ignore fara discutii.
Daca iubesti frumosul,nu ma iubi,ptr ca sunt altele mult mai frumoase decat mine......daca iubesti bogatia ,nu ma iubi ,ptr ca sunt altele mult mai bogate decat mine,....daca iubesti IUBIREA, IUBESTE-MA ,ptr ca-ti voi darui toata dragostea pe care nu ai avut-o nicicand si de care ai atata trebuinta .....in rest ..vesela,optimista...te las sa ma cunosti ...
I can be an angel, a witch, a lady, a crazy girl, a child, a lady, in one word a€“ a WOMAN, this all is me. I dona€™t have much to add to this. I am here not for friends, and not to write mails to a mysterious stranger on another side of the world. Leta€™s leave this romantics to teenagers. I want to get acquainted with a man, and meet with him in real life to continue. If you are not ready for this, or if you want only a pen-pal, leta€™s not waste time.
Incapatanata,ambitioasa,orgolioasa,cu pretentii,imi place distractia,muzica de toate genurile... Thank you for paying attention to my profile. I am easy-going, like to joke, but serious when it is needed. I would be better alone then with just somebody. I want to get married once and for the whole life. I am am friendly, kind, family-oriented, I never complicate things and prefer to enjoy life. 162cm,blonda,ochi verzi,58kg Frumos,educat,galant,respectuos
Cel mai rau fapt pe care ti-l poate face cineva este sa te faca sa crezi ca poti avea aripi, ca poti zbura. Si atunci incepi sa visezi, vise pe care ti le hraneste. Si-apoi, deodata, fara nici un ratiune aparent iti frange
aripile... si te izbesti de pamant... de realitate. inaltime 160..altfel: 85-53-85 cuvant de cheie: siguranta :X:X:X
as vrea sa fiu aproximativ pe cat sufletul iti plange as vrea pe ale tale buze iubirea sa o pot atinge Sunt o femeie naturala din punct de vedere fizic si psihic, echilibrata,romantica, o fire vesela, gospodina zic eu, deschisa spre explorarea de noi orizonturi, cu defecte si calitati , cu pofta de a cunoaste o persoana serioasa si cu un caracter elegant , pentru a petrece restul vietii in dragoste, siguranta, respect si armonie. tanara prezentabila, atletica siuatie materiala exceptionala, pozitie sociala masina 2 vile,nu vreau nimic...doar sa ma laud tanjesc dupa timpul in care vei fi alaturi mine,cand vei ma incalzi cand ma vei face sa tresar dupa atingerile tale cand vom fi ca unul...
BuNa Si NeBuNa!!!!!!! I am a very laid back person with a good attitude and my own style. I'm very fond of the Golden Rule (treat others the way you want to be treated), but at the same time deep and complicated with my thoughts, easy going with people that are not picky, open mind, very honest .sometimes more than it should be . I'm passionate about almost any kind of music, for me it's like a kind of expression.it just release your soul. Open to changes, you never know what life has for you, and what new lessons are you going to learn, what kind of people are you going to meet and in which way are they going to touch your heart. I am looking for a partner in life. I want a best friend and a lover to share quiet moments,i am a very enthusiastic, outgoing, independent person who enjoys similar things, but who can also introduce me to new things Superba:)) ma suport :P
Ochi albastri,bruneta inaltime 1.80,65 de kg,95-63-97... I'm curious, cheerful, passionate, but most of the time thoughtful, honest, decent, active and warm-heart lady. Romance as well as a hope to find my true love always lives in my heart and soul. I possess a self-estimation
SINCERA SI DEVOTATA... A lonely woman who gladly fills everyday with laughter. Would probably be described as clumsy and absolutely nothing against it :) Despite my sour humor, I do not find it difficult to be there as a pillar if needed. Good listener than I'd like to disskut everything and nothing. Independent but appreciate sharing tasks with someone. In my spare time so I read a lot, watch movies, go out in the countryside, cook and enjoy big parties for dinners! Not so funny to just cook for myself. I'm quite calm as a person, but I have temperament or maybe it's just that I have strong opinions ?! Looking for someone to share the ups and downs of life! Or why not just meet someone I'm comfortable with and feel confident so that the busy and cuddly I come forward. Someone who sees my crunches as an asset. Who would like to be calm and safe, with their own opinions. Who does not fear a woman with skin on her nose! FRUMOASA... DACA NU MA CREDETI O SA VEDETI!!! UN BAIAT CARE SA MA APRECIEZE:)
sunt o fata prietenoasa glumeata distractiva... Sunt o persoana singura ( vaduva) linistita ,imi place sa ma ocup de gradina mea ,sa privesc la TV sa merg la cumparaturi .Imi ocup timpul cu confectionarea de obiecte din materiale reciclabile. se vede in poze destul de bine caut persoane dragute sociabile cu bun simt ...
Sunt o fire foarte sociabila...imi plake sa imi traiesc viata,sunt destul de incapatanta..Restu le veti afla voi personal daca doriti:P:):* Vad ca ai obosit ,dar eu nu pot sa merg in locul tau .....pot doar sa merg laolalta cu tine .....Vad ca suferi ,dar eu nu pot sa-ti plang lacrimile ,pot doar sa plang impreuna cu tine ,Vad ca vrei sa renunti ,dar eu nu pot sa-ti traiesc viata ,pot doar sa traiesc alaturi de tine ,Vad ca ti-e frica ,dar eu nu pot sa mor pentru tine ,pot doar sa.-ti daruiesc o viata fara de moarte ....! Plakut Prietenie,relatie de lunga durata daca se poate:P:)
frumusica ochi verzi bruneta O persoana optimista, educata careia ii plac lucrurile simple, plimbarile in natura, iarba florile, muntele. Imi place sa vizitez locuri din intreaga lume. Imi place muzica, dansul si emisiunile stiintifice. Ma fascineaza universul. placut prieteni
...nu sunt ceea ce par a fi ,nu sunt nimic din ce`as fi vrut sa fiu. ..dar,fiindca m`am nascut fara sa stiu... sau prea curand.. .sau prea tarziu. ..m`am resemnat ca perfect orice om si n`am ramas decat ceea ce sunt... un muritor de rand...
SUNT O FIRE CAREIA II PLACE DISTRACTIA SI OAMENII CULTURATI RESTUL VB Nu sunt figuranta ... deci nu suport persoanele care sufera de figuri , o tipa ok compatibila cu care se poate discuta orice ... nu sunt de conceptu k sunt impecabila ptr k nimeni nu e implinit :P:P in rest intreaba shi vei afla :P VEZI IN POZA PRIETENI,DISTRACTIE DAR NU PROSTII
o fata plina de viata:),iubitoare de frumos...:P Invata sa iubesti sufletul ,nu doar fizicul ! " Nu ma intereseaza sex ,aventuri s-au situati materiale,imi vor o familie,deoarece ador viata de familie,unde doresc sa gasesc, echilibrul,armonia si stabilitate "! detalii,detalii.... originalitate
dragutza I am very purposeful. I am just, cheerful, tender, sensitive, caring and devoted. I am reliable, faithful, kind, sociable and responsible... I was born when all planets were ready for making new star, my star. Speaking about horoscope I am a part of outfit of Femida, that is why I like when everything around me balanced. I dona€™t like impudence and insolence, but in the same time I can stick up for myself with a help of words. I want to change this world, but unfortunately in most cases this world changes me. In spite of being an adult I believe in miracles. But I think that ordinary people never notice them. I hate lies, but I like to dream. I want to live with my beloved person and children in future. I want to articole happiness and kindness in their souls. sexoasa barbati
incapatanata,plina de viata,cu mult simt al umorului..........nu dimineata candva de a servi cafeluta............in rest............surpriza I am a kind, cheerful, sincere and faithful woman. I had disappointments in my life, but that was in the past. I always look forward and enjoy my life as it is. I am a family-oriented woman. I value openness, honesty, and faithfulness. I am a good friend, listener and take things positively.
sunt o fetitza sufletista...imi plac mult animalele si sa calatoresc...doresc sa-mi fac amici noi I am romantic and life-loving person, I enjoy every second of life and I am looking for a man who would share with me happiness of living in this beautiful world. I am very faithful and reliable and I am dreaming to love and to be loved, to give all the passion and tenderness for my one and only person. Do you think it can be you? nici prea grasa nici prea slaba amici
sunt o fire foarte distractiva,imi place sa ies in oras,am multi prieteni care nu se plictisesc nicicand in prezenta mea. I have a very creative personality. I am a big dreamer but I also do a lot of things to make my dreams come true. I am very communicative, I have changed a few countries already where I have lived for a while and I think I can adapt to a new place easily. I am an active, cheerful, purposeful,responsive woman. I love life and a very positive person. I have a good sense of humor. I am a joyful person and love to bring joy into lives of people who surround me. I appreciate friendship and respect their wishes and opinions. nu ma consider miss,dar consider ca sunt destul de atragatoare incat sa atrag atentia unui barbat,pe langa calitatile fizice am o gramada de alte calitati ce complecteaza lipsurile fizice ce pot considera unii ca le am. barbat brunet,serios si totusi sa stie ce isi doreste,sa stie sa se distreze.
sunt o persoana deschisa cu care se poate vb despre orice... Italian single woman , goodlooking, good sense of humour, family fond, deeply into culture, searching for similar human being ... nov 2007: is there any 50 - 55 old, single, professor (university or highschool) of romenian or italian literature or arts who wants to visit italy? only serious requests, thank you - grazie! agreabil sunt aici pentru a-mi omora timpul....caut prieteni de vorbit, sa ma relaxez si sa ma distrez ;)
foarte sincera I'm not a Princess, who wants to get marriage with some King to be a Queen and to have her own country kingdom! I'm just a little simple girl, who wants to find her second half, who will be also the simple man!!! I do not need any wealth!!! The main riches is LOVE, which, as I believe, will save the World!!! placut prieteni
sunt o fata ce iubeste afacerile I would like to meet somebody who is able to make me happy.More than that, please, have a look in what am I looking for before to atingere me. p.s. I added very recently done pictures with me and my son! simpatic prietenii
I am a cheerful woman with an active lifestyle. I love myself that's why I'm always trying to look beautiful and to take care of myself. The most important thing in life for me is a family and a loving man next to me. I will never betray my loved one and I want to start my life from scratch. By nature, I am very patient, but I'm not going to tolerate if I get offended often. I am looking for my like-minded friend and lover all in one person. Eu sunt blonda cu ochi caprui ,de inaltie mijlocie Eu caut un mascul fidel si devotat,eu nu pot suporta minciuna si infidelitatea
"the girl...you wanna met some day..." I am very generous and kind; loving and sincere; accurate and faithful. Just dona€™t think that I am an desavarsit woman; but to tell the truth I have no bad qualities. To make my description more detailed I can add that I am punctual, intelligent, responsible and funny.. the boy who can make me HAPPY
sunt o tipa sociabila si distractiva a€˛Sa nu cumva sa confunzi personalitatea cu atitudinea. Personalitatea e cine sunt... Atitudinea mea depinde de cine esti tu!a€¯ Se afla batalii pe care e bine sa le ocolestia€¦nu de teama ca le-ai putea pierde,ci pentru ca ai ajunge ridicol castigandu-le ! Nu merge anterior mea pentru ca s-ar putea sa nu te pot urma. Nu merge in urma mea pentru ca s-ar putea sa nu te pot ghida. Mergi impreuna de mine si fii prietenul meu! constitutie supla o relaatie de lunga perioada si un mascul serios
Nu am copii Da imi vor sa am un copii pe viitor Sunt pitica Sunt rea si periculoasa Tip extrem tare Fac curat in casa Sa spal Calc hainele Fac focul Fac mancare Am vigilenta de animale Fac curat in curte Sunt cuminte Sunt timida Nu sunt fitioasa Nu sunt aroganta Imi place sa citesc carti Imi place sa ascult muzica Sa ma uit la seriale de dragoste Imi place sa fiu in centrul atentiei Sa fiu bagat in seama de toata multimea Sa ma machez de cate ori plec undeva Sa fiu mereu imbracata elegant Nu ies afara ruj si fara sa nu fiu imparfumata
mai bine sa ne cunoastem... si vedeti pe urma cum sunt si ce gandesc... fire vesela, sportiva, entuziasta, comunicativa, romantica, iubitoare sport, calatorii, muzica buna. .Daca esti un suflet cu calitati asemanatoare cu mine, astept sa ne cunoastem.Nu vor sa fiu contactata de persoane mult mai tinere.si nici de masculi casatoriti.Doresc o relatie de lunga perioada nu aventuri..posibil casatorie. potrivit,sunt ok. relatie de prietenie,dragoste,sau chiar amicitie bazata pe incredere si sinceritate.
o persoana simpatica,sincera,deschisa,pe care ai vrea s-o ai prin preajma. in dragoste nu credeam iar acum cand mam indragostit...mam indragostit de cine nu trebuia...trec prin clipe grele din veata mea...caut pe cineva k sa ma ajute sa alung tristetia din imima mea...nu k sa-si mai bata iar joc de ia!!!! am 1.60 , 48kg , satena (mediu/lung) , ochi mari caprui caut baiat cu care sa corespondez
ii las pe altii sa o faca:) Sunt o sotie in continua dezvoltare. Ma straduiesc sa invat din indiferent ce conflict,esec,experienta...viata nu este plictisitoare. Sunt puternica,sunt ambitioasa si stiu intocmai ce imi doresc: imi place sa ma indragostesc,pt.ca femeia indragostita este cea mai frumoasa iubita iar, iubirea este adevaratul fard al femeii. Imi place sa aleg nu, sa fiu aleasa! Imi plac lucruri de calitate pe care nu le poti cumpara cu bani...ci doar cu bunele maniere,integritate,respect,rabdare,eleganta,incredere,iubire si nu in ultimul rand,bunul simt. " Iubirea ne tine tineri si frumosi " A iubi inseamna viata...restul nu reprezinta nimic si nu vreau nimicuri in viata mea! Un barbat se indragosteste de ce vede,o prietena se indragosteste de ce aude!! ... "Domnii "fara poze la profil si fara bunul simt,rog a-mi ocoli profilul!!....Am o intrebare pt.voi distinsi domni ce va cautati sufletul pereche, sau jumatatea pe acest site...ce va determina sa atasati poze la profilul vostru de cand ati fost generica, soldat,sau chiar poza de la primul buletin...va este jena de voi ,de cum aratati in prezent?!!! Acest site stiu ca este facut pentru a-ti gasi persoana , pe care ti-o doresti sa-ti fie laolalta si nu pentru aventurieri. Aventuri de-o seara,gasiti pe port-jartier . Aventurieri,conturi false si alte specimene ,sa nu ma contactati. sa omor timpul....
sunt o persoana caruia ii plac distractiile,muzica si calatoriile!si ink cv STELISTA PANA LA MOARTE!
....te las pe tine sa iti faci o impresie...
sufletul meu e doar al celui care merita! Sweet flowera€¦:)) sometimes wild, sometimes tender and very lovinga€¦like to communicate with people, learn English and look for my soulmate:) Hmm, a little bit shy..very sexy anda€¦super girl!! And it is me!!!! un infatisare placut..... nu caut ca acel baiat sa aiba masini,averi,case,bani si altele...vreau sa fie sufletist,sa stie ce reprezinta respectul si increderea!
nu sunt narcisista!:P E DIFICIL SA VORBESC DE MINE INSUMI ,PREFER SA O FACA ALTII ,INDIFERENT DACA E DE BINE SAU DE RAU ,LA FINAL NU STIU DACA SE APRECIAZA INTERIORUL UNEI PERSOANE SAU CEEA CE SIMTE ACEEA FIINTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NU CAUT AVENTURI VREAU SA INTELEG IN PLUS CUM EVOLUEAZA OAMENII DIN ZILELE NOASTRE. Tu ce ma faci sa cant si sa visez acuma, Eu vad ca esti departe, si poate n'ai sa vii... Si cine esti, eu nu stiu, cum cine sunt, nu stii; Dar simt ca esti frumoasa, ca ochi albastri ai, Ca porti ceva in tine din rozele de Mai, Tu, care esti departe - si poate n'ai sa vii... ... Si cine stie? Poate e visul meu de vina, Caci el iti dete viata, si doar in el traesti, Tu, care azi nu esti - Si poate nici odata aevea n'ai sa fii... Dar eu visez - si visul aripile-si intinde, Dar eu visez - si visul din nou mai mult s'aprinde, - Chiar daca vei persista un dor neimplinit, Tu, care nu esti astazi, si poate n'ai sa fii Ori esti, - dar prea departe, si pururi n'ai sa vii. ............................................................................. Depinde de sezon=)):P Nu caut nimic, am tot ce vreau...
daca vrei sa ma cunosti trebuie sa vorbesti cu mine...nu? Sunt o persoana cu bun simt,respect si educatie ,as vrea ca acea persoana care ar vrea sa mearga pe acelasi drum cu mine sa indeplineasca cele trei aspecte precizate mai sus ,si evident fff multa comunicare,muakkkk cunosti proverbul cu omul?nu judeca omul dupa aparente,intai cunoaste persoana.... nu caut ceva anume.daca imi place e bine...iar da daca nu imi place.............asta e
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